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We need the same 7,000 comments until Wednesday 28/NOV/2012!

1. Open Facebook’s Site Governance Page

    >> Link to Facebook’s Site Governance Page

2. Comment on the new policy:

    “I oppose the changes and want a vote about the demands on www.our-policy.org”
    (Scroll all the way to the bottom of the page!)

3. Share this page with your friends on Facebook to make the 7,000 comments!

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We oppose Facebooks proposed new “data use policy”
and demand the following changes:


  • We want Facebook to further allow users to comment and vote on any new changes.
    Facebook wants to take away the users’ right to comment and vote for proposed changes. The current mechanism is not ideal, because Facebook is “hiding” the vote and tries everything to influence the decision. At the same time it also provides for public discussion about policy changes before they happen and seems important from a political perspective.
  • We want Facebook to implement an “Opt-In” instead of an “Opt-Out” system for all data use and all features (e.g. face recognition, applications or tags).
    Now new options are automatically activated without notice. Users should be able to make an informed decision.
  • We want Facebook to publish a list of all data categories and subcategories that are stored about a user, instead of just naming a couple of examples. Facebook should also publish the purpose for keeping the information.
    It has to be clear and easy to understand what is generally captured by Facebook’s services.
  • We want Facebook to give all users full access to all personal data in a raw format within 40 days upon request.
    Every user has the right to access - we want Facebook to stick to it. The right to access allows you to see all data a company is holding on you. The new policy limits your access only to the data in the “download tool”, which is just a fraction of all data.
  • We want Facebook to clarify who is responsible (the “controller”) for what part of Facebook. We oppose that users Facebook is now claiming that it is the controller for our personal pages, messages and pictures.
    Currently Facebook is flip-flopping: Whenever there is a problem it is “our profile” and “our data”. Whenever they want to limit our control it is “their profile”, “their platform” and “their data”.
    Now they say that they are the controllers for all our profiles and personal data, which means that we loose all rights as soon as Facebook gets the data.
  • We want Facebook to use clear and understandable language. We oppose that Facebook is using “like”, “may” or “could” instead of clear statements. This makes it impossible to clearly know what we consent to.
  • We want Facebook to clearly say or list what they do with our data.
    Currently the only sentence that generally controlls the use of our data is “We use the information we receive about you in connection with the service and features we provide to you and other(s)”.
  • We want Facebook to rewrite the information on “cookies”. Facebook should clearly say which kind of cookies (e.g. HTTP or Flash) , with which content and for what exact purpose they are using.
    The current section is full of general statements: “We use technologies like cookies ... to provide and understand a range of products and services”.
  • We want Facebook to delete all data the users have “removed” or “deleted”.
    In 2011 we had to discover that a lot of “deleted” or “removed” data was still kept by Facebook. It seems like this data is still on Facebook’s servers. Changes were only made for future deletion processes.
  • We want Facebook to have “delete” as a standard option. We oppose that Facebook changes the “delete” options to “hide”, because it is confusing users.
    After it was discovered that “deleted” information was still kept by Facebook they simply relabeled the buttons to “hide”.
  • We want Facebook to implement functions that allow users to “mass delete” data. Such as a function to delete all data of a certain category and all data that is older than a certain date.
    This allows users to efficiently get rid of old “junk data” if the users wishes so.
  • We want Facebook to list specific data retention criteria that makes it clear to users how long which information is held by Facebook.
    Currently Facebook just says that it may keep old information as long as necessary.
  • We want Facebook to take back the change that allows them to keep our information after we deleted our accounts.
    Currently Facebook says it deleted all information when you delete an account.
  • We want Facebook to obtain explicit consent from all users when changing the “data use policy”.
    Currently they change it just by posting a notice on Facebook’s “site governance page”.
  • We want Facebook to ensure that applications can only access the users’ data if they have consented to it.
    Currently any friend can allow an application to access your personal data, if your friend can see them.
  • We want Facebook to implement a serious enforcement of privacy obligations by application providers.
    Currently Facebook does not even ensure that they have some sort of privacy policy, not to mention the other obligations of an external provider of applications.
  • We want Facebook to take back the change that makes the user responsible for getting back the data from applications or other third parties.
    Currently they are obliged to delete all user data as soon as the user deleted the application, now the user has to specifically ask the application provider to delete such data.
  • We want Facebook to limit the use of our data for advertisement and other purposes to certain data categories.
    Currently Facebook can use any of our data for advertisement (e.g. private messages, sexual preferences, interactions with certain friend or what others post and share about us). The new policy is restating this.
  • We want Facebook to take back the change that allows users analysis when just looking at an advertisement, instead of interacting with it.
  • We want Facebook to take back the changes that limit the scope of the “show my social actions in Facebook Ads” options.
    Until now you could turn this function off, the new policy is limiting the scope of the opt-out.

  • We want Facebook to disclose which data categories are used for determining out our personal interests.
    Currently it is unclear how Facebook finds out our interests for targeted advertisement if the information is not posted by us.
  • We want Facebook not to process our personal messages for any other purpose than the transmission of the message.
    Currently private messages can be used just like something that was shared publicly.
  • We want Facebook to stop tracking users through “social plugins” (e.g. like buttons) on third party web pages.
    Data should only be processed if the user interacts with the plugin.
    Currently Facebook logs every page with a social plugin that users visit, no matter if you click on it.
  • We want Facebook to ensure that content on other peoples’ pages cannot be made more public after someone else commented on it.
    Currently users can change the settings so that “private” postings suddenly become “public” without your consent.
  • We want Facebook to give a clear commitment that it is observing it’s obligations as a processor of our personal data.
    Currently Facebook is not clear about its obligations when hosting our data. Facebook even says that they e.g. do not guarantee for the security of our data.



More Information on OUR-POLICY.org

Why do should we leave 7.000 comments?
According to Facebook’s current privacy policy they put changes up for a vote if 7.000 people comment on the same issue. It is not enough to simply say “I oppose the changes”, since Facebook only allows a vote about alternative demands. We hope we can make this number until 29th of November 2012 and therefor stop this policy change that abolishes this rule and is again limiting the rights of users.

How did you come up with these demands?
We are working on Facebook for more than a year now (see www.europe-v-facebook.org). Our complaints at the Irish Data Protection Commission were the reason why Facebook is renewing it’s privacy policy. We were looking for the changes and compared them with the complaints we filed. The demands are simply what we belief the European laws provide for, in addition to what the law is demanding we also added the first demand to keep the voting mechanism.

Why isn’t there a discussion process?
Because of the limited time and the need to have exactly the same demands by 7,000 users we decided to rather have a short list than being too late. We are aware that this list may not represent the opinion of all Facebook users but we are simply too short on time to collect opinions, discuss them and vote on a final list. We hope you understand our approach.

I have something to add!
We are very sorry, but we can not add points after the first users have posted our page to Facebook, because they might not be okay with later additions. We recommend that you add your issue in a separate comment so that it will be heard. You can always add your own opinion in combination with this list, just add your opinion in addition to the sentence above.


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